Plaid Cymru is in principle in favour of English votes for English laws. But for an EVEL system to work there has to be a real equality of powers amongst the nations or else we risk ending up with a complete constitutional and legislative shambles. We cannot either have a situation whereby Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish MPs are barred from voting on matters that have a direct funding implication for those nations and that's why the Barnett Formula should be scrapped and replaced with a fairer funding settlement. Our family of nations is going through a period of rapid change, and Plaid Cymru wants to see us develop into a family of equals, but with the half-baked proposals outlined by the unionist parties that is just not going happen. The real danger is that Wales gets left behind and the only way we can stop this happening is by having a strong representation of Plaid Cymru MPs making the case for Wales in Westminster. Only Plaid Cymru will look after Wales’ interests no one else.
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Showing posts with label English votes on English laws. Show all posts
Showing posts with label English votes on English laws. Show all posts
Monday, 27 April 2015
DOING NO EVEL…
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Friday, 28 November 2014
MR SMITH GOES TO WESTMINSTER
The publication of
the Smith Commission adds yet another weighty tone to the growing pile of
Westminster produced solutions to the problem of devolution in Scotland. The
three London based and Westminster centred political parties have come up with
a partial solution to what they perceive as the Scottish problem.
Perception is key
here, if you in Scotland your perception of ‘the problem’ is going to be very
different to that of the Westminster based parties. Wales needs as wide an
array of job creation-levers as possible to help move forward the Welsh
economy. Aside form a parity of powers; this must actually mean a parity of
resources.
The Barnett formula
(deeply flawed as it is) is now effectively enshrined as Westminster’s formula
of choice for the allocation of resources to devolved administrations. An
unreformed unfair funding formula leaves the Welsh people out of pocket to the
tune of some £1.2b billion pounds – this funding gap between Wales and Scotland
is yet to be addressed.
The Conservatives,
perhaps as a way of destabilising the party formerly known as New Labour, have
embraced the touchy issue of English Votes for English Laws. This issue is
going to looms large on the horizon before Christmas. It remains clear that,
English votes for English laws aside, there is a real need for a symmetrical
constitutional settlement for the devolved Parliaments to avoid the creation of
1st and 2nd class MPs.
Historically
successive UK Westminster Governments have dealt with constitutional issues on
a haphazard basis, largely in the hope that the problem of devolution would go
away for a while. The Westminster elite has one chance and one chance only to
save the Union following recent events in Scotland.
If the Union is going
to work, then there needs to be a comprehensive settlement to fully empowers
the devolved Parliaments on an equal basis. The years of waffle, delay and time
wasting have been frustrating, but unless a decent devolutionary settlement is
delivered and is actually perceived to have been delivered then the Union will
remain on a very shaky footing indeed.
Not for the first time the
Westminster based political parties are out of touch with what the people of
Wales want. A recent YouGov poll reported that 63% of people think
Wales should have the same powers as Scotland. Details of Plaid Cymru's vision for the future governance of Wales can
be found here: Bringing our Government Home.
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Monday, 21 April 2014
UNDER ATTACK?
It was Peter the Pain (Hain) wittering
on, on Radio 4's ‘Question Time’ from Chepstow the other week, that started me train of thought, he was having
a go at the Lib Dems for not defending Wales. Naturally the panel contained
no Plaid representatives but there would be Plaid representative the following week on the
edition from Stroud. This sort of thing is now a simple irritant, perhaps you get used to
this sort of sort of institutionalised not quite bipartisan behaviour from the BBC after a while.
I digress; it was the Pete the Pain’s
behaviour that convinced me that this was the latest party attack / defence line
from Labour Party HQ. Already the First Minister, Carwyn Jones, had claimed
that the Conservatives by criticising the NHS and the education system in Wales
were actually attacking Wales and Welsh values. While this is a less than
subtle response to David Cameron's attacks on Labour in Wales it is potentially
quite effective.
The basic principle of distraction is
the substitution of a headline grabbing untruth, as with most blatant untruths
it's simple and the more times it is repeated the more believable it will
become. What's actually occurred was in the run up to the recent Welsh
Conservative Conference, DC was trying to score some political points at the
expense of the Labour party in Wales (and Westminster).
Labour in Wales's less than subtle
response to this was to suggest that the Labour Party in Wales is standing up
for Wales and that it is the natural choice for Welsh voters. The problem is
that this approach falls short of reality. Even the most disinterested observer
may have noted that the Labour party in Wales (and Westminster) are split (if
not downright dysfunctional) over their attitudes to devolution and to Wales.
Reasonably regularly Labour in
Westminster's MP's who represent (electorally at least) geographically Welsh
seats have put their own personal and Labour party self interest ahead of the Welsh
national interest and the needs of the Welsh people. Part of the reason for
this is that the transfer of more powers to the National Assembly will mean the
call to reduce the number of Welsh MP's in Westminster will grow. The English electorate
(and English MP's) will question the validity of Welsh over representation in
Westminster and their influence on English only legislative matters.
One pretty predictable result would
be fewer jobs for the boys - sorry fewer opportunities for Labour elected
representatives to become geographically Welsh MPs. This is only a matter of time;
the Con Dems have already looked at this once before dropping it as the
coalition partners fell out of the democratically disastrous referendum on
electoral reform. No doubt this lead too much relief on the part of our largely
sitting Labour MP's in Westminster as this particular boundary commission
bullet was dodged. This issue, is not however, going to go away...
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Thursday, 28 March 2013
WHO SPEAKS FOR ENGLAND?
The report by the McKay Commission suggested that English-only laws need to be backed by a majority of MPs who represent English constituencies and that Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish MPs could see their roles reduced if proposals to give English MPs more say on laws for England are eventually brought in. The Con Dem Westminster government said that it will give the report "serious consideration" this may well be Westminster speak for kicking it into the long grass.
The McKay Commission was set up to examine how MPs should deal with English legislation in the wake of devolution. For some time there has been a potential problem over what’s been known as West Lothian Question - the ability of Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish MPs to vote on England only matters - for several decades, but this has intensified of late as a result devolution.
Back in 2004, support from Scottish and Welsh Labour in Westminster MPs meant that the then Blair government could push through the introduction of university top-up fees in England. The McKay Commission has concluded that the current situation is "unsustainable" and that changes were needed. The Commission has proposed the principle that House of Commons' decisions that involve a "separate and distinct effect" for England should "normally be taken only with the consent of a majority of MPs sitting for constituencies in England".
The same principle would apply for decisions that affected only England and Wales. The Commission has recognised that while Westminster law-making had inevitably come to focus on England, or England and Wales the actual processes for making law at Westminster have not significantly changed or taken account of the developments of devolution.
Understandably people in England are unhappy about the existing arrangements and may support some changes to the Westminster legislative process. English people are beginning to fell disadvantaged and understandably have concerns that MPs who represent the devolved nations are able to vote on matters that directly affect England but not Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. Clearly the status quo is unsustainable and there is a clear need to sort out the problem of all England legislation
Even the Party formerly known as New Labour (and Ed) has recognised the problem and have made tentative efforts to embrace the political elephant in the room that is Englishness and they have admitted that they (Old and formerly New Labour) have apparently been somewhat reluctant to talk about the sleeping elephant (in the room) at the heart of the UK - Englishness. There is more, apparently they have decided that the issue of national identity (English or British perhaps?) should not be a closed book.
Last year in a keynote speech on ‘England’ Miliband managed to hit his thumb squarely rather than the head of the nail, saying that Britain should be a country "where it always possible to have more than one identity" and people should not have to choose between being British, English, Scottish or Welsh. The acknowledgement of "multiple allegiances" potentially raises some interesting questions about national identity and effectively accepted that Labour had done its best to try to avoid having to articulate a vision of Englishness.
Plaid has long called for a partnership of equals, but it is pretty clear that Ed's current position on the English question is that they do not deserve their own Parliament. Not unsurprisingly the party formerly known as New Labour, has done its best to largely ignore the thorny matter of the West Lothian Question and English votes on English laws, perhaps hoping the problem will go away.
Labour’s failure, may remind older participants in the devolutionary process of not so long ago, of typical old Labour fudge. Labour is still apparently currently keen to continue devolving powers to local authorities in England, which is one way to fudge the issue and avoid calls for an England-only parliament to balance those in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. I suspect that based on the way labour plays the devolutionary game, I predict that this means that in about 10 to 15 years Labour will embrace the cause an English parliament....
The McKay Commission was set up to examine how MPs should deal with English legislation in the wake of devolution. For some time there has been a potential problem over what’s been known as West Lothian Question - the ability of Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish MPs to vote on England only matters - for several decades, but this has intensified of late as a result devolution.
Back in 2004, support from Scottish and Welsh Labour in Westminster MPs meant that the then Blair government could push through the introduction of university top-up fees in England. The McKay Commission has concluded that the current situation is "unsustainable" and that changes were needed. The Commission has proposed the principle that House of Commons' decisions that involve a "separate and distinct effect" for England should "normally be taken only with the consent of a majority of MPs sitting for constituencies in England".
The same principle would apply for decisions that affected only England and Wales. The Commission has recognised that while Westminster law-making had inevitably come to focus on England, or England and Wales the actual processes for making law at Westminster have not significantly changed or taken account of the developments of devolution.
Understandably people in England are unhappy about the existing arrangements and may support some changes to the Westminster legislative process. English people are beginning to fell disadvantaged and understandably have concerns that MPs who represent the devolved nations are able to vote on matters that directly affect England but not Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. Clearly the status quo is unsustainable and there is a clear need to sort out the problem of all England legislation
Even the Party formerly known as New Labour (and Ed) has recognised the problem and have made tentative efforts to embrace the political elephant in the room that is Englishness and they have admitted that they (Old and formerly New Labour) have apparently been somewhat reluctant to talk about the sleeping elephant (in the room) at the heart of the UK - Englishness. There is more, apparently they have decided that the issue of national identity (English or British perhaps?) should not be a closed book.
Last year in a keynote speech on ‘England’ Miliband managed to hit his thumb squarely rather than the head of the nail, saying that Britain should be a country "where it always possible to have more than one identity" and people should not have to choose between being British, English, Scottish or Welsh. The acknowledgement of "multiple allegiances" potentially raises some interesting questions about national identity and effectively accepted that Labour had done its best to try to avoid having to articulate a vision of Englishness.
Plaid has long called for a partnership of equals, but it is pretty clear that Ed's current position on the English question is that they do not deserve their own Parliament. Not unsurprisingly the party formerly known as New Labour, has done its best to largely ignore the thorny matter of the West Lothian Question and English votes on English laws, perhaps hoping the problem will go away.
Labour’s failure, may remind older participants in the devolutionary process of not so long ago, of typical old Labour fudge. Labour is still apparently currently keen to continue devolving powers to local authorities in England, which is one way to fudge the issue and avoid calls for an England-only parliament to balance those in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. I suspect that based on the way labour plays the devolutionary game, I predict that this means that in about 10 to 15 years Labour will embrace the cause an English parliament....
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Ed Miliband,
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the English question,
the party formerly known as New Labour,
the West Lothian Question
Friday, 8 June 2012
ED EMBRACES THE ELEPHANT
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| Ed's new friend! |
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